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Re: What is the Deal with Prop 102?

Monica — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:02:57 -0000

What I get a kick out of that those who support traditional marriage always seem to skip history. If I recall right marriage was quite literally a contract by which a man OWNED a woman. We where property, B#@*^#*es. Much like cattle and not worth half as much. So if we wanna get retro with it all women need to do as they're told because property doesn't have a right. I find it amusing how easily people can bring up tradition but want to leave out the less flavorful parts of this old school Jingle. You know, the part of tradition that men and women have fought against for years. As a rule I find that good things always have a huge backlash. In the beginning there were people who did not want to separate from England. There were people who did not want women to work, vote, or have custody of children. A lot of things have passed that a nice chunk of the population did not initially agree with. This whole gay marriage thing is no different.

Re: What is the Deal with Prop 102?

Robert — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:24:52 -0000

"Some people believe that traditional marriage is the key to a successful culture, society, and nation. Those same people see traditional marriage being attacked by others, who want to broaden the definition of marriage to include perverse and bizarre unions."

Allowing gays to marry is not the same as disallowing straight people to marry. Traditional marriage would not be marginalized one iota by allowing gays to marry. It would only be broadened to allow gays to marry. Just like we broadened marriage to allow for interracial marriages during the civil rights movement.

"Now, on its face, this amendment to Arizona’s constitution would neither outlaw or legalize anything. It would merely call a spade a spade, and not call a perverse and bizarre union “marriage”."

Do you think the state should dictate who churches allow to marry or should that be up to the church? This constitutional amendment gives government control over who churches allow to marry. This seems wrong to me. I think the church should make that decision.

"Many people who will vote “yes” on 102 believe that if we promote traditional marriage as much as possible, it will make our state better, because of their beliefs about traditional marriage. Now, there are certainly many matters that our government should not be involved in. However, the supporters of 102 understand that it is the role of government to promote and protect a healthy society, and so they will vote for this amendment."

Are you suggesting that by having gay marriages illegal less people will be gay and there will be more straight marriages? I'm not sure how 102 "promote[s] and protect[s] a healthy society."

Re: What is the Deal with Prop 102?

Sarah Copeland — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 19:33:39 -0000

Your right, but being tolerant doesn't mean I have to approve or accept it or keep my mouth shut because I don't agree.

Re: What is the Deal with Prop 102?

digijustin — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:50:47 -0000

Perverse and bizarre unions huh? What makes same sex unions perverse and bizarre? Just because it's not something that we ourselves might want to be part of, we need to be tolerant of other's beliefs and lifestyles.

Re: What is the Deal with Prop 102?

Jared Copeland — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 09:23:27 -0000

Some people believe that traditional marriage is the key to a successful culture, society, and nation. Those same people see traditional marriage being attacked by others, who want to broaden the definition of marriage to include perverse and bizarre unions. Now, on its face, this amendment to Arizona’s constitution would neither outlaw or legalize anything. It would merely call a spade a spade, and not call a perverse and bizarre union “marriage”.

Many people who will vote “yes” on 102 believe that if we promote traditional marriage as much as possible, it will make our state better, because of their beliefs about traditional marriage. Now, there are certainly many matters that our government should not be involved in. However, the supporters of 102 understand that it is the role of government to promote and protect a healthy society, and so they will vote for this amendment.